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We have removed the content of this post on the basis it is unreliable information.
The poster 'Yves' is not who he claims to be and his IP Address has been logged.
To provide some continuity here, the poster claimed that his EB employers were not exactly ideal. As can be seen elsewhere in this thread, this is anonymously disputed.
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Ian
Member
tied up in a cult they would love to leave but cant
We know from personal contact with EB members that some of them are indeed in this beastly position, obliged to live a lie and well aware that they are doing so, but I have often wondered how common this is.
You say, Yves, that they are “tied up in a cult they would love to leave but cant” but how do you know this? Do they indicate it by things they say or do, or does your information come from somewhere else? And among the EB members you meet at work, how many of them do you think are disillusioned with EBism?
Anonymous
Unregistered
AWorked for an EB. FOund out he was having an affair with one of the staff, had nice garage type building in back of business - prostitutes! Also had an aliance with a car dealer who knew all about this EB and warned me about him. Actually told me I would be better leaving. Was actually in this person's office doing clerical work when he said you had better go now I will call a taxr - there is a police raid. Sure enough there was. Women came out of the garage and doors were banged in. The taxi arrived and I hopped in. That EB was withdrawn from later. What he had been getting up to was criminal in and out of the EB. Dead now he is.
Anonymous
Unregistered
It was the same situation 42 yrs ago, so nothing has changed.
Anonymous
Unregistered
This comment has been posted by someone posing as myself (Yves). I have requested Peebs.com to withdraw this comment in three occasions, but you people are so desperate to gather negative comments about the Brethren that you accept even comments made under a false name (http://peebs.net/forums/The_Coffee_Shop/ipswich-australia-the-brethren#post-13088). Your attitude is evil and you are feeding on lies. If you had only a shred of decency you would erase this thread at once. I have been working for this company for more then 6 years now, and they always look after their workers and shown generosity towards them.
johnw
Member
24327 - Yves was asked for more evidence. He wasn't automatically believed although many might feel the story was believable.
For my own part, nothing written anonymously can be taken fully as fact. Views can be listened to but statements 'of fact' are inevitably suspect.
You will also note how little notice has been taken so your claim about the desperation for negative comment is a little hollow.
Perhaps I have been taken in just now !
Anonymous
Unregistered
I deal with this firm on an occasional basis. A few months ago I received this email:
For the Urgent Attention of all [company name] Clients,It has come to our attention today, that someone from outside our company has been making false phone calls to our clients, claiming that we are too busy to receive any future tender documents.
Please be advised that these phone calls are fraudulent, and to take no notice of them. We value your enquiries and look forward to receiving further projects from your company.
If you hear of any further cases of this happening, we would appreciate if you can identify the caller and let us know!
Please forward this email interoffice to all staff to ensure the message is conveyed.
Thank you for your understanding.
Regards,
Chris [surname], DIRECTOR
Sounds like 'Yves' has been out there canvassing (or anti-canvassing, if that is a word!) An unhappy former employee perhaps?
Anonymous
Unregistered
Don't worry about this. A follow up has revealed there is no Yves working for this company, either real or imagined. But it makes for a good story.
Tar Baby
Member
Sounds to me like the person with the user name of "Yves" (not likely nor claimed to be his real name) is or was an employer of "the company" and the person claiming to be really named Yves was someone trying to do damage control for "the company" but overlooked a simple detail that there was no one named Yves working there. (nor is there a peebs.com by the way)
That's the best sense I can make out of this so far. Not that its terribly important, just slightly interesting.
Anonymous
Unregistered
Nothing new! Always were like that/this.
Anonymous
Unregistered
Well, if the original message was genuine, no matter what the persons name really is, his wish that
I will be glad when the day comes that I can quit my job and walk out head held high that I cut my ties with this bunch of creepsis virtually guaranteed ... bend over and kiss your arse goodbye whateveryournameis
Anonymous
Unregistered
Ian said
We know from personal contact with EB members that some of them are indeed in this beastly position, obliged to live a lie and well aware that they are doing so, but I have often wondered how common this is
I have worked for them and with them quite closely over a protracted current period, and I am yet to see or hear anything that confirms that this is common. The superiority complex they each suffer from, the delusional fairyland they live in, and the material benefits they all enjoy, well and truly offsets the negatives of their cloistered lives.
Usually the one who bitches and carries on, is in trouble with them anyway, but they are not going to tell us are they? [...by the way I got caught screwing my secretary/apprenctice/guard dog ...]
Anonymous
Unregistered
I too have had contact with this company and can confirm that Yves does indeed work for the company he is the welder guy in the corner of the smoko room sweating as he eats his smelly garlic ladden anchovies and slags off the brothers in the office.
I can also confirm that the original posters comments regarding Tom the foreman are fairly accurate.
Now....time to make some more phone calls.....Lost any contracts lately???
Anonymous
Unregistered
Ian said
"We know from personal contact with EB members that some of them are indeed in this beastly position, obliged to live a lie and well aware that they are doing so, but I have often wondered how common this is"
The "would love to leave but just can't leave" line is sometimes hard to hear for those of us who left and lost everything, and struggled through years of darkness following it. I think it would more accurately be "but are not strong enough to leave" or "but don't want to give up what they have to leave".
While leaving can be profoundly difficult in ways that can't really be accurately expressed, and while it is true that in adjusting to the outside world at times we felt pushed right to the edge, and while it is true that there remains an aching pain for the ruptured relationships that will likely never heal, nonetheless leaving was indescribably "worth it' and I wouldn't trade my lot today, now free and no longer living a lie, for anything.
Ian
Member
Now....time to make some more phone calls.....Lost any contracts lately???
Peebs.net and other Web sites containing criticism of EBism have been attacked several times by criminal methods, but we should not react by using criminal methods ourselves, especially when the police have not yet identified the criminals.
Anonymous
Unregistered
The "would love to leave but just can't leave" line is sometimes hard to hear
For those who actually left of their own accord,, have you asked yourself if you would have been an independent , principled, and strong willed individual no matter what background or circumstances you were in. Would the rebel in you have seen you buck the constraints of any place or situation that stifles your growth.
Many stay in dysfunctional and unhappy marriages for duty, others stay in jobs they hate to maintain their security but will complain about it and wish they had the ability to do something about it. So, perhaps it is differences in personality that make some stronger and more rebellious, and for the others, the comfort of familiarity will outweigh the desire to change things.
Anonymous
Unregistered
Back over 40 yrs the EB business were corrupt, some, that is. The EB know how to shut up people who may talk too. So, nothing is new.
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